Grimstead Parish Council

A meeting of Grimstead Parish Council was held at 7:30pm on 8th November 2004 in West Grimstead Village Hall.

Present: Mr G Bayford (Chairman), Mr R Amor (Vice-Chairman), Mrs R Clark, Mr C Wilkinson, Mr R Parsons (Clerk), Salisbury District Cllr Richard Britton, WCC Community Planner David Bunting and eight members of the public. Apologies were received from County Cllr Bill Moss.

170/04 Public Forum: * A West Grimstead parishioner reported that elderly villagers were having difficulty using the recycling bins in the West Grimstead Playingfield. SDC had constructed a hardstanding to accommodate the bins but because this was 8 inches above ground level, it was difficult to negotiate. Cllr Clark explained that she had expected the hardstanding to be constructed level with the ground but that the SDC waste minimisation officer had failed to make this clear to the installation contractors at the time. He further threatened that if Grimstead Parish persisted with their complaint that the hardstanding was too high he would publish in the Salisbury Journal a report blaming Grimstead for wasting £1,000 of public money. GPC members agreed to try the new facility and it is now becoming apparent that this is a significant safety hazard. Action: The Chairman agreed to pursue this matter with Environmental Services at SDC.
* Another West Grimstead Parishioner was concerned that minutes of meetings were not being published promptly on the Internet. The Clerk explained that minutes are only published after they had been approved. He acknowledged that the minutes for the PC meeting held on 5-Jul, although approved, were not available online and that this would be corrected. Once approved, the minutes of the meetings held on 16-Aug and 27-Sep would also be published.
* Salisbury District Cllr Richard Britton queried whether draft minute no.147/04 should identify the West Grimstead parishioner who is making allegations about the honesty and integrity of some un-named members of Grimstead PC. Action: The Chairman agreed to temporarily close the meeting after the minutes of the last meeting had been approved to enable a public debate about this controversial issue.

171/04 Candidates for Co-option: The following candidates were co-opted as members of Grimstead PC:
                  WOODLEY, Alexander Stewart of Orchard House, Chapel Hill, West Grimstead.
                  PARAMOR, Eluned (Lindy) R of Hollyville, West Grimstead.
                  GREVILLE-WILLIAMS, Anne of Maypole Farmhouse, East Grimstead.
Declarations of Acceptance of Office were signed and each will complete a Register of Member's Interests.

172/04 Declaration of Interest: None. 172a/04 The WCC Community Planner was welcomed.

173/04 Minutes of the PC meetings held on 16-Aug had been amended as requested. The Chairman queried the registration fee paid to HM Land Registry. The Clerk explained that the application had been made under Section 3(2b) of the Land Registration Act 2002 and that the specified fee was £30. The minutes of the 27-Sep meeting, having been circulated, were also approved. Both sets of minutes were signed by the Chairman.

174/04 Management of Maypole Village Green in East Grimstead: Cllr Wilkinson reported that he had arranged a meeting with a local contractor on Monday, 15-Nov. Cllr Amor agreed to attend this meeting. At least two quotes will be obtained for the proposed work.

175/04 Dog Fouling: The Chairman reported that Environmental Services at SDC had provided some dog fouling signs and some leaflets to explain to dog owners about the Dogs (Fouling of Land) Act 1996.

176/04 R5 Designated Land behind West Grimstead Village Hall: A reply to the Council's letter of 4-Jun-04 had been received. The owner of the land had decided not to continue with negotiations for a lease of the field and also confirmed that the land was not for sale. The Chairman reported that he had been in consultation with a solicitor living in the village who would be contacting SDC on the PC's behalf.

177/04 Warning Notices in West Grimstead Recreation Field: These have been made and installed.

178/04 West Grimstead Playingfield Safety: Cllr Clark reported that the equipment suppliers, Playdale, had indicated that on receipt of the RoSPA Safety Report they would advise how best to resolve the identified faults. There is a possibility that some items of equipment may still be under guarantee.

179/04 West Grimstead Playingfield Maintenance: The Chairman proposed that the West Grimstead parishioner who has cleared the brambles and shrubs etc should receive the Council's thanks.

180/04 West Grimstead Play Equipment: Cllr Clark reported that equipment and fencing would be ordered to the value of £2,729 and funded from the R2 development funds held by SDC on behalf of the Parish. An item of play equipment called a 'Spring Rider' will be installed, a three-metre chain-link fence will be erected along the northern boundary and extra Play Bark safety surface will complete the improvements.

181/04 Procedural Matter: The Chairman adjourned the meeting to enable an open Public Forum.

182/04 Open Public Forum: Salisbury District Cllr Richard Britton was surprised and concerned that the PC did not appear to be rebutting adequately minute no.147/04 alleging dishonesty and lack of integrity. He took exception to the inference that his resignation from Grimstead PC might have been influenced by these allegations which he believed to be unfounded. He suggested that the complainant should either produce specific evidence to support the allegations against named individuals or formally withdraw the same. Mr Graham Read, the complainant, reaffirmed that in his opinion the behaviour of PC members sometimes fell short of what he believed everyone had a right to expect from people holding public office. He stated that he was not proposing to make a formal complaint but hoped that his opinions would be respected in future. He had confirmed his opinions in a letter, which had been read to the meeting. Cllr Amor queried minute no.147/04(4) where it was alleged that Councillors failed to support a planning application knowing that the applicant had been operating an agricultural business in the area for 50 years. He believed that knowledge of an applicant's status was not a material consideration in determining a planning application.

183/04 Procedural Matter: The Chairman closed the Open Public Forum and resumed the PC meeting.

184/04 Allegations of Dishonesty: Members discussed the content of minute no.147/04 and views of individuals in the Open Public Forum. Cllr Amor proposed that the PC should accept Mr Read's letter, that he did not wish to make a formal complaint, as being the end of the matter while Cllr Wilkinson proposed that Mr Read should be asked to either substantiate his allegations or withdraw them. The Chairman proposed that under Section 1 [2] Public Bodies [Admissions to Meetings] Act 1960, members of the public should be excluded from further discussion on this matter that would be resolved at the end of the meeting.

185/04 West Grimstead Chalkpit: A letter from HM Land Registry explained why the PC's application for First Registration of the Chalkpit had been cancelled. Members agreed to consider an alternative application.

186/04 Request for Access: A letter from an East Grimstead parishioner explained why it would be necessary for contractors to cross the Common Land at Bugmore Green to carry out water pipe repairs. Members considered that there would be minimal damage to the land and therefore raised no objection. Action: The Clerk was instructed to write confirming that the PC had no objections to the request.

187/04 SDC Independent Parish Remuneration Panel: Members agreed to adopt the recommendations.

188/04 Payments: The following were approved:
Stadia Sports Int Ltd - Goalpost net ----- 228 -- £52.58p
R Parsons - Clerk's fee and expenses ---- 229 - £172.17p
The Original Signworks Co Ltd - notices - 230 -- £29.38p

189/04 Parish Clerk's Contract: Members noted that NALC and SLCC were in the process of updating the National Agreement for defining salaries and conditions of service of Local Council Clerks. The Clerk produced copies of an exchange of emails between himself and an employment law solicitor. Cllr Clark reminded members that this matter had been discussed before and that those discussions should be the basis for any future changes in the relationship between Clerk and Council.

190/04 WCC Parish Lengthsmen: Cllr Clark was concerned that identified maintenance was not being fully dealt with by the Lengthsmen's visits. Members resolved to prepare a full schedule of maintenance requiring attention, immediately prior to the next WCC Lengthsmen's visit.

191/04 Autumn Hedgecutting: The Clerk reported that the owner of the woodland to the East of the road from East Grimstead to Farley had agreed to arrange for the roadside hedgerow to be cut back.

192/04 Footpath No.10 at East Grimstead: Cllr Amor reported that a stile off Bugmore Lane needed maintenance. Action: The Clerk will report the matter to the WCC Rights of Way Warden.

193/04 Planning: * S/2004/2341 - FULL APPLICATION - NEW DWELLING DETACHED GARAGING NEW ENTRANCE at BUGMORE LANE EAST GRIMSTEAD - Members agreed to support this application.

194/04 Correspondence and Reports: Members noted the schedule of correspondence and reports and resolved that these should be circulated and comments brought to the next meeting.

195/04 Youth Activities: Nothing further to report.

196/04 The next Parish Council meeting will be held on 13th December in East Grimstead Reading Room.

197/04 Allegations (Confidential item): Members resolved to write a letter to Mr Read inviting him to provide evidence of his allegations or to withdraw them.

The meeting closed at 8:56pm

Signed by the Chairman, Cllr Bayford, on 13th December 2004.

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